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KUF6IU: My key idea is that states should only do civil unions (not marriages, be them straight, gay, or any other type). Instead any "marriage" declaration & handling should be entirely done by the religions (the religious congregation of the group getting united).
KUF6IU: My key idea is that states should only do civil unions (not marriages, be them straight, gay, or any other type). Instead any "marriage" declaration & handling should be entirely done by the religions (the religious congregation of the group getting united).
- KUF6O9: Why? This properly separates church & state.
- KUF6VT: Most notably it allows religion to define "Marriage" anyway they want it to be, because then the state doesn't use this term. It's a term in religion for over 2000 years (in the old testament, which then is used by both Christianity & Islam). That's over 10x longer than any government (including America) has been around, so the term doesn't belong to the government/state, it belongs to the religions, so (also like the word "God") the state should leave it alone (don't use it).
- KUF6XU: Instead the states should use the word "Civil Unions" which religions don't use (as best I know).
- KUF6Z8: This then separates church & state; religions get their word "marriage" to individually do whatever they want with it, states/government gets their word "civil union" to do whatever they want with it, and everybody (or at least a lot more people) are happy.
- KUF720: On a quick poll of about people who planned to vote YES (or abstain) on California's Proposition 8, 3 of 4 of them would vote NO if the wording was the states would do civil unions of people, not marriages, and yes even if that included same-sex civil unions.
- KUF7IR: Who's got this idea?
- KUF6HN: This is an idea I independently came up with just before California's Proposition 8 vote when talking with a friend who of mine who is a Jehovah Witness.
- KUF7QK: Though I've found other people have come up with it, too. ...
- KUF75Q: So then two amendments need to be made:
- KUF76S: 1st. Everywhere on the state's laws & forms documentation the word "Marriage" is replaced with the word "civil union"; so the state no longer handles "marriages" it handles "civil unions"; then add to this "For marriages, the state now refers people to get that from his/her religion."
- KUF7C6: 2nd. "Civil Unions" are extended so the participants do not need to be of opposite sex (so same-sex civil unions are allowed).
http://LoveRules.Info/2009/12/kudpwh.html LAST UPDATED 2009.12.10pst00 from Writely source
KQ5ZAU: Some Background on this Document:
- KUDPWH: 2009.12.09pst0149- 1st created in Writely source and posted to http://LoveRules.Info/2009/12/kudpwh.html; wanted to title it quote[States, do only civil unions; Marriages only by religion KUDPWH] and did.
- KUF6C8: renamed to[RELIGIONS do marriage; STATES should only do civil unions! KUDPWH]; wrote up the basic ideas.
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